Wednesday, November 14, 2007

The Decade of Brainwashing

(via The Glory of Carniola) I just read this incredibly insightful article by Croatian writer, Vladimir Arsenijevic, about the history of the conflict in Kosovo.

Here are some of the most amazing quotes

But right at the very bottom came the Albanians who lived in the southern Serbian province of Kosovo. Their language wasn't a Slavic language. They were poorer than the rest of us. Their culture was pretty alien. In the motley collection of different kinds of Yugoslavs they, as the southernmost ethnic group, were condemned to play the role of the absolute outsiders.

Anything that the rest of us in former Yugoslavia claimed to know about the Albanians was put together from a hodgepodge of offensive cliches.


A few years ago the Serbian media reported for months on end on mass graves whose dead had been identified by forensic experts as Kosovo Albanians. One of the most horrific images was that of a refrigerated lorry out of which murdered Kosovo Albanian women, children and old people were disposed in Lake Perucac, near the mouth of the river Derventa. On our screens we saw half-decayed, clothed corpses being pulled out of the water, we heard the shocking confession of the driver, who had been told to transport the dead out of Kosovo in order to cover up the crime. At the time a Belgrade television station broadcast an interview with a man bathing untroubled in this beautiful lake from whose green waters the corpses had just been pulled. When the reporter asked whether this bothered him the simpleton stood there shaking his head as the water dripped off him. Blinking innocently and smiling laconically, he looked at the camera and said without turning a hair: "To be honest, I don't believe all that," and dived defiantly back into the water.

This article is definitely a must read. When I tell friends and family where I have moved, I always inevitably get questions about these Balkan conflicts. My friends here sometimes try to argue that this is a totally unique situation and push "ancient enemies" explanations on me. I know
I still have lot to learn, but when, in the first sentence, the writer says "Kosovo Albanians used to be simply 'our negroes'", I know I am not treading on terribly unfamiliar territory.

Definitely check out that article!


Pilar said...

Hallo, Interesting blog, I felt in love of Slovenia since I lived there last year.

Camille Remarkable said...

Thanks again for reading Pilar!
And thanks for adding me to your blog roll! I'll have to do the same!

Dave said...

Dear Camille,

thought you might be interested in reading the following comment by Max Rosenthal of the pro-Israel "4International-Unity of Serbs and Jews" blogsite concerning the credibility of Vladimir Arsenijevic.

It really leaves me uneasy now as to what the truth really is about Arsenijevic's ulterior motives in writing what he does? I really am worried now to say the least about whether Arsenijevic was telling the truth or not as I am a strong supporter of Israel and the Jewish people and I am very aware that Soros propagandizes aggresively against Israel.

best wishes,


you introduce Vladimir Arsenijevic’s piece with the phrase,
“No Comment”

Well Julia, “No Comment” indeed!

Especially “No Comment” from you informing us about the irrefutable fact that Vladimir Arsenijevic has been a PAID PROPAGANDIST for GEORGE SOROS’ “Open Society Institute” since BEFORE 1995! (George Soros’ O.S.I. has been described by independent US based researcher,Jared Israel, as “kind of a high-profit wing of the CIA”).

“No Comment” from you about the fact that Vladimir Arsenijevic also gets PAID for his anti-Serbian propaganda through the “Stefan Batory Foundation” which Gerorge Soros founded many years ago and lavishly finances this foundation of his through Soros’ multi-billion dollar O.S.I. “Open Society Institute”!!

To see some brilliant exposes on George Soros’ multi-Billion dollar propaganda machine in action against the Serbs and Serbia, see the following links:

“No Comment” from you Julia, informing us of the proven indisputable fact that during the 1990’s Vladimir Arsenijevic was also a PAID propagandist for “OTPOR” - the CIA created and funded (with millions of US dollars) totally phony “grass roots Serbian student organization” - which was exposed in the late 1990’s by independent researchers in the US and Europe as in reality NOT a “grass roots student movement” at all, but actually the CIA’s key “fifth-columnist” Serbian traitors’ organization working towards the toppling of Slobodan Milosevic’s Socialist party government on behalf of EU and US Imperialism.

Arsenijevic touts himself as “a Serb” supposedly being impartial,neutral and unbiased towards his Serbian brethren in Serbia, but he was born and raised in CROATIA -a hotbed of Croatian Ustasha Fascism - for much of his formative years and on top of that he wrote that piece largely based on the ramblings of an ALBANIAN writer named Xhevdet Bajraj!!

Here are just three examples I found of Vladimir Arsenijevic being a PAID PROPAGANDIST STOOGE of George Soros, by doing a quick search on Google:

The “Soros Yugoslavia Foundation” PAID Vladimir Arsenijevic and several of Arsenijevic’s traitorous fifth-columnist cronies in Serbia, the sum of US $12,888.77 in the year 1995.

In 1995, this sum of money for ordinary Serbs in Serbia struggling to survive under an economic embargo was astronomically high since Serbian citizens from May 1992 were suffering under strict US and EU imposed economic sanctions leading to rampant monetary inflation and resulting in thousands of deaths of elderly people and young children due to lack of basic medicines and medical equipment.

Soros’ Open Society Institute [O.S.I.] “East Translates East” Project has PAID Vladimir Arsenijevic the sum of 400,000 Hungarian Forints [Ft] in the year 2001.

George Soros’ Stefan Batory Foundation PAID Vladimir Arsenijevic the sum of 6,000 Polish Zloty [PLN] in the year 2002 under the auspices of the Soros funded “East Translates East” Project and the Soros funded “Czarne Publishing House”.

Here is a very revealing comment made by one of Soros’ Czarne Publishing House’s officials [Monika Sznajderman] commenting on where on earth they get their money from:

[Start Quote Here from Monika Sznajderman]

How, in a country [Poland] with such a small readership, to run a small press publishing this kind of literature and not to go bust? “Not to think about money!” laughs Monika Sznajderman, “because I don’t think about money in lump-sums, I can afford daydreaming.”

In reality they depend a lot on grants. Translations from native literatures are promoted by counterparts of the Polish Adam Mickiewicz Institute, which are affiliated to the ministries in the countries of the writers’ origins.

For instance, Exuvii by Simona Popescu from Romania was
published with the financial support of the OSI [Open Society Institute] -Zug Foundation, OSI [Open Society Institute]Center for Publishing Development (Budapest), and Stefan Batory Foundation, as part of the “East Translates East” project.

“It’s not true, as some think, that such grants secure a new car as well,” explains Monika Sznajderman, “the money covers the translation fee. But there are still costs of editing, printing, promotiong, and so on, to be paid.”

[End Quote here from Monika Sznajderman]

Julia, how long did you think you could fool us with the anti-Serbian ramblings from someone who has been PAID BY GEORGE SOROS and THE CIA to write anti-Serbian propaganda (i.e. total LIES)?

So Vladimir Arsenijevic is supposedly a “neutral, unbiased, impartial Serb” ?? Sure he is. And the Pope is Jewish too huh?!

To see how much of a despicable, brazen and shameless paid propagandist LIAR this Vladimir Arsenijevic really is, one only need to consider this comment of his about the so-called Kosovo “Freezer Truck Hoax” which was brilliantly exposed by Dr. Francisco Gil-White back in 2005 as an anti-Serbian NATO/EU propaganda fraud.

Here is Vladimir Arsenijevic lying through his teeth about this thoroughly debunked NATO/EU propaganda hoax:

[Start Quote here by Arsenijevic]

“A few years ago the [Soros-funded]Serbian media reported for months on end on mass graves whose dead had been identified by forensic experts as Kosovo Albanians. One of the most horrific images was that of a refrigerated lorry out of which murdered Kosovo Albanian women, children and old people were disposed in Lake Perucac, near the mouth of the river Derventa. On our screens we saw half-decayed, clothed corpses being pulled out of the water, we heard the shocking confession of the driver, who had been told to transport the dead out of Kosovo in order to cover up the crime…”

[End Quote here by Arsenijevic]

Well dear 4International readers,have a look at Dr. Francisco Gil-White’s introduction to his highly detailed expose of this crude anti-Serbian NATO/EU propaganda hoax:

[Start Quote here from Dr.Francisco Gil-White]

On April 30th 2001, an accusation began that the Serbs under Slobodan Milosevic had supposedly shipped thousands of dead bodies in freezer trucks from Kosovo into other areas of Serbia to hide them from the forensics hired by the Hague Tribunal (ICTY - International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia).

It was an extraordinary claim for NATO, but so was NATO’s embarrassment: the Hague Tribunal forensics had found exactly zero bodies of Albanian civilians murdered by Milosevic’s forces (as opposed to, say, 100,000, or 500,000, which had been the earlier NATO claims). So which is it? Did the Serbs carry out a spectacular cover up? Or did NATO simply lie?

Well, NATO clearly had a motive to lie, because it needed to get President Slobodan Milosevic tried at The Hague for war crimes, and an absence of evidence of war crimes is a bit awkward under these circumstances. NATO also needed to justify the bombing of Serbia as a humanitarian expedition to save all those Albanians whom the Serbs had supposedly been murdering. So a double motive. And there is no question that NATO had opportunity, because its disproportionate amount of power makes it likely that NATO can get away with a lie. So the only question is whether we have a smoking gun that NATO lied.

We do. This series will lay out the evidence that convicts NATO of creating a hoax of a genocide, followed by a hoax of a cover up, all of it blamed on the Serbs, with the help of the terrorist KLA, and with the help of the Western mainstream media.

The Serbs are innocent.

The facts don’t match the accusations

On March 24th 1999, NATO began bombing Serbia. Why? NATO said: “for humanitarian reasons”: to stop a genocide.

Even as it dropped its bombs, in order to justify dropping more, NATO alleged that Slobodan Milosevic’s forces were dodging enough NATO explosions to kill as many as 100,000 Albanian civilians.[1] In fact, sometimes they said 500,000.[1a] Consistent with this, during the bombing, NATO had its own Hague Tribunal issue an indictment against Slobodan Milosevic for “war crimes.”[2] And yet, uncomfortably, after the bombing, investigators hired by NATO and the UN scoured Kosovo for months and then. . .and then. . . .nothing: they produced zero evidence of ‘ethnic cleansing’ by Milosevic’s forces.

Surprised? I will explain and document everything in detail. But first, a parable.

One man shoots another, and the killer explains that he did it for “humanitarian reasons” because the victim was about to shoot somebody else. Of course, there is an investigation. Imagine that you are the detective and that you fail to find a gun on the victim’s body or anywhere in the vicinity. This appears to contradict the killer’s story. So you interrogate the killer again and he mumbles that maybe the victim threw the gun away. “After he died?” you suggest, with irony. The killer replies sullenly that he doesn’t know where the man’s gun is. “Perhaps somebody took it,” he adds. Some people corroborate the killer’s story but they all turn out to have hated the dead victim and had many reasons to want him dead.

If you are a normal person, then, since you are the detective, and this is your job, you grow suspicious.

Lab tests later reveal no traces of paraffin on the victim’s hands or anywhere on his clothing. So you question the shooter again about the victim’s supposed gun, and he then confesses that the victim did not really have a gun. “But he did have a knife, and he threw it at me,” the suspect retorts, adding, “I don’t know where the knife ended up.”

Do you become more suspicious? Of course you do. The shooter has completely changed his story when investigations turned up no evidence for his first excuse. Any detective who did not, at this point, choose premeditated murder as the running hypothesis for this event should turn in his badge, for he cannot reason from the obvious.

Okay, keep your detective hat on.

NATO first said it was bombing the Serbs on account of 100,000 murdered Albanians. And yet, after NATO dropped its bombs, this is all that seven months of looking for bodies (from June until November 1999) could turn up, according to Reuters:

“UN investigators have exhumed 2,108 corpses in Kosovo so far, but the true number of ethnic Albanian victims may be much higher, the chief UN [War Crimes Tribunal] prosecutor Carla del Ponte said on Wednesday.”[3]

Some people may be tempted to say, “Okay, so they didn’t find 100,000 bodies, but they did find 2,108.”

But did they?

Why should we believe the new figure given that the first figure — 100,000 — was nonsense? Our suspicion is rewarded. Notice what The Wall Street Journal said about this (my emphasis):

“the number of bodies…is…2,108 as of November, and not all of them necessarily war-crimes victims.”[4a]

Actually, one has to make the point more strongly: Del Ponte’s 2108 figure was simply the number of “exhumed corpses” (see above). It therefore included not only Albanian civilians, but also Serbian civilians, KLA combat deaths, Yugoslav army combat deaths, Serbian and Albanian NATO-bomb victims, Serbian and Albanian KLA victims. . . - everyone.

This means that only a fraction of the 2108 can be Albanian civilians. So del Ponte was misinforming when she said that “the true number of ethnic Albanian victims may be much higher,” as if the 2108 were even all Albanians.

Remember, the original claim was 100,000 massacred Albanian civilians. But we are now down to a mere fraction of 2108. Not much is left at all of NATO’s original allegation.

But have we touched bottom? Why should we assume that? Our suspicion is rewarded again. Sure enough, it turns out that the 2108 bodies are not even casualties that took place during the bombing, as NATO and the media were trying to suggest.

Let’s see. The NATO bombing began on March 24th, 1999. Before that date, NATO officially estimated that fighting between the Yugoslav Army and the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) terrorists, had resulted in 2000 deaths on all sides.[4]

I emphasize that this is NATO’s estimate before it began dropping bombs. Thus, if after the bombing the investigators could find only 2108 corpses, it follows that no more than about 108 people died during NATO’s attack. And this — again, please take good note — is all according to NATO’s and the ICTY’s own official numbers. In other words, these are the official numbers of those trying Milosevic for supposed ‘war crimes’ at The Hague (so, if anything, the numbers are inflated.)

And remember: since these are just “exhumed corpses” and therefore include everybody, the number of specifically Albanian civilian deaths during the NATO attack can be no more than a fraction of 108… That’s a very low number, not much higher than zero, and very different from 100,000.

And the question remains: who killed them?

NATO says Milosevic, but we have now grown much too suspicious to just believe anything NATO says. So we take that with a grain of salt, and investigate again. And once again, our suspicions are rewarded.

It turns out that NATO dropped bombs primarily on civilian targets, including convoys of tractors and cars full of…Albanian civilians.

So NATO easily killed as many Albanian civilians as a fraction of 108.

But in case NATO needed some help, there is always NATO’s ally, the terrorist KLA, which several times proudly claimed responsibility for attacks against defenseless Albanian civilians when these did not cooperate with the KLA’s racist program of violence against Serbs.[5]

So what do we have, then?

Well, that, using NATO and the ICTY’s own official numbers, as of November 1999, this is all that could be said:

1. The Albanian civilians who died during the NATO bombing were no more than a fraction of 108.


2. NATO’s bombs and KLA terrorism can easily account for all of the Albanian civilian deaths.

Which means. . .what? That NATO did not produce evidence that even one Albanian civilian was murdered by Milosevic’s forces!

You, the detective, should now have the following running hypothesis: NATO had other reasons for attacking Yugoslavia, quite different from those stated.[5a] Why? Because the reason they gave was 100% of a lie.

The citizens of NATO states acquiesced in the destruction of civilian Serbia because their governments told them this was necessary to prevent an ongoing humanitarian catastrophe from getting worse. Since the body count in Kosovo shows that there was no such ongoing catastrophe, but rather that NATO bombing is what led to death and destruction, this is a spectacular embarrassment for NATO. Naturally, therefore, NATO does not want its citizens to know that their tax dollars were spent attacking civilians in Europe with excuses that were simply lies.

NATO’s problem

And hence NATO’s problem. Because the whole idea was to have Slobodan Milosevic put on trial at The Hague for war crimes — not the KLA, and certainly not NATO.

You may well ask: why is this a ‘problem’? Why not just drop the charges against Milosevic and try NATO and its terrorist ally, the KLA, for war crimes?

But, you see, that’s not the function of the Hague Tribunal. It’s official name says it all: International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY). It was set up for the specific purpose of putting Yugoslavs — and especially Serbs — on trial, not NATO officials. This was made perfectly clear on 13 June 2000, when the Hague Tribunal announced that “no investigation [will] be commenced by the OTP [Office of The Prosecutor] in relation to the NATO bombing campaign.”[6]

The key word is “commenced.” The Tribunal was not saying that it had found NATO ‘not guilty’ of war crimes violations; it said that “no investigation [will] be commenced.” That is, the Tribunal would not ask the question.

Although unjust, this is far from being incomprehensible. The ICTY, after all, was illegally set up by NATO, it is funded by NATO, and NATO appoints the prosecutors.[8] How could the tribunal bite the hand that feeds it?

And given that the Hague Tribunal’s function is to help justify NATO’s attack on Serbia, we can see why in her November 1999 press conference, Carla del Ponte (above), The Hague’s chief prosecutor, appeared to express a hope (!) that “the true number of ethnic Albanian victims may be much higher.”

If one’s imperative job is to find Milosevic guilty for ‘war crimes’, one might assuredly express the grisly hope that the number of Milosevic’s civilian victims will turn out to be higher.

Higher than zero, certainly.

But del Ponte’s hoped-for corpses did not materialize, and by August 2000, as the UN and NATO forensic experts wrapped up their investigations, the total body count was barely higher and still…“under 3,000” (the exact number given was 2788).[7] And of these, given NATO’s official estimate before the bombing, no more than a fraction of 788 can be Albanian civilians, all of whom can easily be accounted for as victims of NATO and KLA activity.

Without the promised cartloads of murdered Albanians — or, more precisely, without apparently even a single Albanian civilian murdered by Milosevic’s forces — how was NATO going to get the Yugoslav president to The Hague?

NATO took a year trying to solve that one.

Solving the problem

But then, ‘out of the blue,’ as they say, NATO suddenly ‘realized’ that Milosevic’s forces had used freezer trucks to haul thousands of murdered Albanians out of Kosovo, hiding the bodies in Serbia.

Presto! Problem solved.

Never mind that this ‘theory’ was patently absurd; never mind that before April 2001, in over two years of investigations, this ‘theory’ was never even heard of — not even hinted at; never mind that this ‘theory’ was ever so convenient for NATO, and that it didn’t appear until long after the forensic investigators had shown NATO accusations to be lies.

Never mind that not one shred of evidence was ever produced to back up this ‘theory.’

Never mind that this ‘theory’ was trotted out precisely at the moment when NATO demanded of the government it had installed in Serbia that they hand over Milosevic to The Hague.

Never mind. . .

On the ‘strength’ of this ‘theory,’ Milosevic was illegally abducted and sent to prison. The outcome was foreordained and did not depend on facts.

I know. You are thinking: “Why didn’t I ever hear about all this?”

Because in reality you are not a detective. You have important things to do, and you are quite busy. It is not your job to investigate whether NATO is telling you the truth. That job falls to the mainstream media, which you assume to be ‘free.’ So you say to yourself, if NATO is putting reality upside down, then anything so obvious will become a scandal in the media. Thus, trusting the media to be a good detective, and since no such scandal emerged, you assumed that NATO’s accusations had been just.

This is why, in order to understand what happened, the question of the media cannot be side-stepped. In the next section, therefore, I demonstrate what the media knew and chose to cover up (for a map of everything that follows, see below).

»» Continue to part 2:

[End Quote from Dr.Francisco Gil-White]

Max Rosenthal - February 24, 2008 at 3:44 pm

Camille Acey said...

@ Dave - Thanks for reading this blog. I don't know why that link goes to my blog instead of the original site where it was posted, but anyway...I am a bit surprised that someone like you (who is most likely opposed to any Holocaust-denial) would be so quick as to embrace refutations and denials of Serbian genocide on the Albanian people of Kosovo. I am new to the region and still learning about the history and politics but no matter how much I come to know I would never be so bold as to discount accusations of genocide (especially not because of a few computer links or some Zionist anti-Soros fervor). The world has seen -- time and time again -- what happens when we ignore cries for help and accounts of genocide and abuse. I know the stories are never cut and dry with "us" being blameless and "them" being 100% in the wrong, and trust me, I know Soros is no angel, but I am still not riding along with any of this.

Honestly, instead of devoting time to such hateful denials and condemnations (which are ultimately in the name of a few unscrupulous and self-centered politicians) we should be looking for ways to help people rebuild their lives, stop genocides in other places, and say -- once and for all -- NEVER AGAIN.

Joshua Rosenberg said...

"...would be so quick as to embrace refutations and denials of Serbian genocide on the Albanian people of Kosovo" "...

The Albanians murdered Jewish people en masse in Kosovo, Croatia and Bosnia during World War 2 when they volunteered to join Hitler's SS "Skanderbeg", "Handschar" and "Kama" Nazi mass murder divisions.

You are obviously ignorant of this history or prefer to sweep it under the rug. I know it is irrefutably true and have personally experienced it because I am Jewish and much of my family was wiped out during the Holocaust by these Nazi monsters.

Anyone who claims that the Albanians "suffered a genocide" in 1999 instead of perpetrating one against Serbs, Jews and Roma is clearly either ill-informed or a liar.

You obvioulsy did not read Max Rosenthal's article which cites specific evidence from the US and NATO's own forensic investigation teams - including the FBI and Spanish forensics experts - who combed Kosovo for an entire year without finding a shred of proof that Albanians suffered any kind of genocide.

In fact the opposite has been proven to be the case over the last 11 years since 1999.

Do you have any idea how many Serbs, Jews and Roma people have been murdered and expelled by the terrorist drug dealing, child-prostitution-ring running gang of terrorist mass murderers known as the Kosovo Liberation Army???

More than 350,000 Serbs, Jews, Gorani and Roma people expelled and over 10,000 kidnapped and murdered so far WITH THEIR BODIES VIVISECTED AND THEIR INTERNAL BODILY ORGANS REMOVED BY THE ALBANIAN KLA WHILE THEY WERE STILL ALIVE so that they could be sold on the Western black market!!

These are the kinds of hideous crimes against humanity reminiscent of Joseph Mengele - aka "the Angel Of Death" - who experimented on my people in death camps during the Holocaust.

The Albanians in Kosovo overwhelmingly voted these terrorist mass murdering child-prostitution-ring running drug-dealing monsters into power:

Hashim "The Snake" Thaci, Ramush Haradinaj and Agim Ceku.

The entire Serbian-speaking Jewish community in Pristina, Kosovo was expelled by the Albanians in June of 1999 in precisely the same manner as the Albanians did in Hitler's SS Skanderbeg and Handschar divisions in 1943.

And your anti-Zionist jibe against Max Rosenthal with your reference to "Zionist fervor" shows your true colors. Every time someone tries to expose muslim Nazi crimes against Jews or Christians he/she is labelled a "Zionist" as if that is something to be ashamed of.

"Zionism" was and still is simply the movement to establish a homeland for the Jewish people in Eretz Yisrael and to bring all of the world's Jewish people back home to their true homeland.

Anyone who is against "Zionism" is simply an antisemite in disguise because Eretz Yisrael - the Biblical borders of Israel - is the one and only TRUE homeland of the Jewish people.

Antisemitic neo-Nazi Jew-haters and those on the loony Left who support Hamas, Hezbollah and the PLO/Fatah terrorist mass murderering beats always employ this tactic of referring to "Zionism" & "Zionist fervor" as a dirty word or derogatory phrase in order to discredit their opponents.

You obviously support the Albanians and their side of the story. I wouldn't be surprised if you supported the Fakestinian Arab Muslim Nazis in Hezbollah, Hamas and the PLO/Fatah against Israel.

Did you know that Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda trained the Albanians for several years in the 1990's to perpetrate murderous terrorist attacks against Serbian men, women and children in Kosovo?

Did you know that the bombs used in the Madrid and London terrorist bombings were supplied by Albanians with the help of Bosnian muslims?

Joshua Rosenberg said...

I can supply you with all of the intelligence documentation from NATO and US agencies proving this but I guess you would prefer to bury your head in the sand and pretend it is all merely "Zionist propaganda", right?